Hatsumi Bujinkan Dojo Teachings
May 6, 2010 by soke
Filed under Soke hatsumi
Direct transmissions of the Bujinkan densho taught by Ninjutsu Grandmaster Masaaki Hatsumi. Soke Hatsumi direct dojo densho kuden teachings. Filmed live in his Hombu dojo and at his Ayase Tokyo Budokan classes. Now you can train as if you came to every class of Soke Hatsumi. This years theme is the Kunai, Kyoketsu Shoge, Sword and Juppo Sessho. Hidden within the teachings are the core of true Budo Taijutsu in only a way that Soke Hatsumi transmits. These teachings are a great gift to the Bujinkan. Fortunate were those that could travel to Japan to train with him in his dojo. AND now he offers these teachings to you. Every class was filmed for history and now you can study the entire years teachings class by class. Get your transmissions today.
@Creationsofmyown Well, first of all, Takamatsu sensei was instructed by his grandafather Shinryuken Masamitsu Toda, who was SOKE of “Togakure ryu”, a ninjutsu school. And bujinkan DOES have three ninjutsu schools
Togakure Ryu
Gyokushin Ryu
Kumogakure Ryu
You can look all this up anywhere.
@Creationsofmyown science in practice is totally different then “theoretical science” that people try to worship because new theories are being created all of the time and you have to remember that science books are written by human beings, supposedly imperfect by “scientific standards”
if you want to talk about no evidence we can what if ourselves into any corner considering virtually any text, this is easy, personally I’m still doing my research
which of hatsumi’s books have you read?
@Kirin9
i have read some of his books.
all books that contain actual science are equal yes… since science by definition is
constantly advancing and updating to the current level of knowledge.
i dont see what this diversion does to change the situation, i have told you there is no evidence… would u care to provide some?
@Creationsofmyown it seems pretty obvious that you’re commenting on things that you don’t understand at all, have you read hatsumi?
are all “science books” created equal?
you’re trying to compare einstein to bill nye
@kainheinrich
oh really? then how come there is absolutely NO evidence beyond takamatsu’s say-so that he was taught ninjutsu
you have been studying BUJINKAN, there is no ninjutsu in that organization….
the kuden transmission you speak of is the ONLY evidence for these claims… and it doesnt check out with the history…
bansenshukai, ninpiden, shoninki… go study up timmy… there is NO combat/taijutsu/martial arts in ninjutsu…
cite me historical documents proving me wrong please.
@Kirin9
ashida kim has written books on ninja history too….
any moron can make up shit that people will buy…
@Creationsofmyown
well, ninjutsu is a martial art, because, it DOES include fighting styles, combat technques, taijutsu…
want to know how i know, that’ll be because i study it, ive been studying it for a while now, and i can assure you that the techniques they show us, are part of even older ninjutsu schools of which, as i said before, there are very few scrolls because all of the techniques were past on orally
actually he is demonstrating advanced applications which would have been useful to someone who has practiced 50+ years, hatsumi’s basic techniques are similar to those of chin na, and extremely effective in real situations, hatsumi has written books about the history of ninjitsu as well, but those would probably not be interesting to someone who doesn’t like him, either way I can attest to the fact that he is a really great person and a martial master ^_^
@Nordrian
you seem to mistake my exposing of inaccuracies in your point of view as a lack of respect
is it disrespectful to correct a bald faced lie? of course not, the only people who think respect means being above criticism are people who know they’re argument is not fit for the mental arena.
these are the kind of people who need to use the word respect as a placeholder for censorship….
spout BS, call your school ninjutsu, get called out,,, dont like it? dont spout BS u cant prove.
@Creationsofmyown Being aggressive are we? Yes I am tired of arguing, got other things in mind, I pay because I am 100 pct certain of the efficiency of the art.
I’m sorry if my life doesn’t revolve around a debate with you, I think I have been calm, open minded, and given my opinion properly, you don’t seem to be able to respect my point of view, so whatever, bye.
@Nordrian
tired of arguing? or tired of being proven to know very little on a topic you were no so long ago babbling like an expert??
so you believe it is ninjutsu? but not on faith? if it ISNT faith, you are claiming you have some evidence, care to share it?
if you arent saying you are 100pct sure… why the fuck are you giving them your money??
and if you arent 100%( couldnt find that one?) then why would u claim “what I saw was anything but fake”, when you have since said u aren’t sure?
@Creationsofmyown I just said that I didn’t research anything myself, that I was just tired of arguing, but whatever, again I’m not here to argue, got other things in mind.
It is not based on faith, myself, I never said that I could prove, or that I was 100 pct sure that bujinkan was linked to the old ninjas, I didn’t researched on it myself, but I do trust the people I have talked with, I might read more about it in the future, but right now, I must say that it doesn’t matter to me.
@Nordrian
” just to say bad things about it,” you missed the reference, i do only have 500 chars.
so you admit you believe hatsumi’s and his student’s claims on faith?
you are ASSUMING that people HAVE researched this… thing is, there isnt much that needs to be researched…
but regardless, i asked for EVIDENCE of your claims ..,, with none forthcoming i will conclude..
your surrender is accepted willingly and without contempt.
@Creationsofmyown I never said that you claimed it to be bad.
I myself don’t have any evidence, it’s not my job to gather them, I trust people who have researched on the subject, just like you trust people who have researched on other historical subjects. But I am tired of arguing about that anyway, kinds of bore me, was just pointing out that after all this time, I could still see the same people saying the same things about an art they don’t like/dismiss, but whatever, have a nice day.
@Nordrian
do you have any proof santa doesnt exist??? you cannot PROVE a negative.
you misinterpret what i say, i never said it was bad…
talking to people is NOT evidence that what you are training IS ninjutsu, OR evidence of its efficiency… you are making an argument from authority, which is really only fallacious since the authority you are claiming DOESNT know ninjutsu…
lets be very clear, there is NO evidence for any living person’s claims to ninjutsu.
got evidence?
@Creationsofmyown and what prove to you have to support what to say? Opinions only, once more, you are behaving the same way you reproach bujinkan members to do. As for Kacem, he was granted a card by Japanese gov, to be allowed to research on the origins of ninjutsu. So yes he was a bujinkan practitioner, doesn’t mean his research isn’t right.
Your proof aren’t worth more than mines.
@Nordrian
kacem zoughari, whose of what rank exactly in the bujinkan?
do you not understand how illogical it is to use a source that contradicts all we have in the historical record…
wait on his book… go read the bansenshukai, the ninpiden, and the shoninki…
and the rest of the scrolls…
nothing to say ninjutsu is anything beyond the skillset of soldiers in feudal japan that included stealth, espionage, subterfuge, survival, and sabotage. care to change the definition of ninjutsu?
@Creationsofmyown You make assumptions, a lot of them imo, I am no specialist, I know people who have more answers than me, but simply don’t care about arguing on youtube, I wonder what evidences you are expected though.
@Creationsofmyown Now, it is your opinion, I would recommend you the book of Kacem Zoughari(once it’s out in english), this man, from what I know, had access to every scroll, of every school, from every dojo, even those from Hatsumi, I didn’t read his book, didn’t have the occasion, and waiting for the English one which should be more furnished than the French one, I would say, if you have any interest in ninjutsu, that this book might be a great source of infos.
@Nordrian
hatsumi doesnt call it ninjutsu ANYMORE…
and calling it his old name for it ninpo taijutsu, which clearly infers that it is linked to shinobi, despite the entire lack of evidence for both his claims to lineage AND his claim to ninjutsu including “taijutsu”…
there is NO evidence for these claims beyond takamatsu’s and hatsumi’s say-so…
would you care to provide some evidence for these claims that takamatsu and hatsumi were either unable or unwilling to provide?
i thought not
@Creationsofmyown there’s no “religious favor” in the way I defend it, I just work with logic, and of course, since for the quality of an art, there’s no objectivity, I bring my subjective point of view, Hatsumi doesn’t call it ninjutsu, but budo taijutsu, for the simple reason that it’s a mix of school, we call it sometimes ninjutsu because people will more easily make the link if you talk of ninjutsu than of ninpo taijutsu.
@Nordrian
im impressed that so many of you argue back with religious fervor to protect your own cognitive dissonance…
i have already told you before, im not a hater, i LIKE the bujinkan… but that DOESNT mean that its ninjutsu…
there is absolutely NO evidence that ninjutsu is or includes martial arts, fighting styles, combat techniques, taijutsu… whatever you want to call it…
I’m impressed to see the same ppl who continue to go to every video of ninjutsu, just to say bad things about it, I was at a seminar last week end, and what I saw was anything but fake, I have talked with people with actual fighting experience, from army, to the legion(France), to police etc, I have seen the best(imo) French shihan (Arnaud Cousergue) and talked with him, and I can say that ninjutsu is efficient, more than a lot of MA.
@Creationsofmyown lol my bad, i have no idea then haha
IM TIRED